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SEC Consult SA-20241107-0 :: Multiple Vulnerabilities in HASOMED Elefant and Elefant Software Updater Unsafe eval() in TestRail CLI IT Security and Insecurity Portal www.waraxe.us Forum Index -> General discussion -> NTLM And LM Algoritm View previous topic :: View next topic NTLM And LM Algoritm Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:10 pm outlawsys Regular user Joined: Jun 11, 2005 Posts: 12 Hi Everyone, I created NTLM Rainbow Table to crack WinXP's Admin Password.But I want to ask that whch algoritm use WinXP? I searched the web and i found NT based(2000,2003,XP uses NTLM Algoritm) 9x(95-98-Me uses LM Algoritm) Is it True? And windowsXP recover hash in system32/config/SAM file? Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:33 pm slimjim100 Valuable expert Joined: Jun 09, 2004 Posts: 208 Location: USA outlawsys, THe type of hash depends on the version of windows and how the OS is setup. XP still can use a LM hash for passwords if the network has any older systems on it. The best way to get the hashes is... Cain & Able, PWDUMP3, Sam inside, & many other programs. Slimjim100 _________________ www.anti-hacker.info Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 3:47 pm y3dips Valuable expert Joined: Feb 25, 2005 Posts: 281 Location: Indonesia yes u can find the password file at C:\WINDOWS\system32\config i used to crack with john using a dictionary, u can use pwdump for getting the hash on windows or samdump (with bkhive) on linux _________________ IO::y3dips->new(http://clog.ammar.web.id); Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 9:43 pm outlawsys Regular user Joined: Jun 11, 2005 Posts: 12 But pwdump dont works without administrator groups users. It want admin rights .But i want a program when i login a normal user it gives me all hashes.Is there a program like this? Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 12:36 am ToXiC Moderator Joined: Dec 01, 2004 Posts: 181 Location: Cyprus outlawsys wrote: But pwdump dont works without administrator groups users. It want admin rights .But i want a program when i login a normal user it gives me all hashes.Is there a program like this? cain and abel i think . but it depents on your windows system or if you are connected to a network it may be like lm + ntlm +challenge ... in any way is a great tool .. a must have. ToX _________________ who|grep -i blonde|talk; cd~;wine;talk;touch;unzip;touch; strip;gasp;finger;gasp;mount; fsck; more; yes; gasp; umount; make clean; sleep;wakeup;goto http://www.md5this.com Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:37 am slimjim100 Valuable expert Joined: Jun 09, 2004 Posts: 208 Location: USA outlawsys, ToXic is correct in that Cain & Able can sniff and capture the LM + Challenge hash. To do this you will need to ARP Poison the subnet and sniff for the hashes. Once you have one you can sent it to the cracker in Cain and then brutforce it or use dictionary. If you need more info on this I have wrote a paper on it here: http://www.middlegeorgia.org/default.asp?id=44&mnu=44 http://www.middlegeorgia.org/default.asp?id=45&mnu=45 http://www.middlegeorgia.org/default.asp?id=54&mnu=54 Read the papers and e-mail me if you have any other questions on using Cain. Slimjim100 _________________ www.anti-hacker.info Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 7:45 pm Vixje Active user Joined: Mar 25, 2006 Posts: 35 Hmm cool, i didnt know that really worked with ca&able, I always use ettercap for it. Im gonna download your manuals, thnx Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 11:29 pm slimjim100 Valuable expert Joined: Jun 09, 2004 Posts: 208 Location: USA Edit.... I removed this post because it was off subject. Sorry to bother any of you guys/gals Slimjim100 Last edited by slimjim100 on Mon Apr 17, 2006 6:50 pm; edited 1 time in total _________________ www.anti-hacker.info Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 1:39 pm Vixje Active user Joined: Mar 25, 2006 Posts: 35 Hi slimjim, I would really want to help out, but i really dont like having googles toolbar in my vision haha You might wanna get yourself a "donate via paypal" button so the people can help you out, I'm more than willing too do so. Also let me know if I can help you with any hosting services. 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