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Why do not you give away hack proven certificates ? |
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Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 8:34 pm |
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Snoop1990 |
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After testing my webspace, you remember here, I was just thinking if it is possible to get some certificate. You know it seems to be a trusted side if I have something to show of. Therefore I guess it would be easy for you to write a script that checks some basic stuff, like you told me. Then if everything is ok, you can give away a certificate, which contains a link to your page. You get more visitors and my visitors know that my page is secure. Sounds like a nice deal doesn't it ?
After reading some topics on this board I am quite convinced that you know a lot about security. And I guess it isn't too difficult to write such a script.
Or even better, you just write this php script. Then the customer place this file on the server and a link on his / her page and if all is configured right a waraxe icon appears and says the page is secure. And if the people click at the link they get the results on a special page and there is a link to your page so people can read more about security.
That's just an idea but as I explained I think it shouldn't be too difficult for you to do and having more traffic is what everybody likes
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"I don't hack, I only surf the web to search for security holes ! To prevent my clients and me from being hacked !" |
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Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 8:54 pm |
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lenny |
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Like to hackersafe logo? That is a pretty good idea, but really Waraxe is not reputable enough to be considered a safe source. The idea behind the certificates it to prove to customers that the site they are using is safe - If the customers don't consider Waraxe a reputable source (possibly they have never heard about Waraxe? Countless possibilities) then the logo become useless. Still a good idea though, and I would certainly want my site to be certified |
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Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 9:00 pm |
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Snoop1990 |
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If I take a look at those web users I know there are some who really know about such stuff but a lot would be pleased to see a symbol that shows this side is hack proofed. And as I pointed out it is not that much work to do and the more popular waraxe gets the more people would like to get such a certificate. Just think about it, it's just an idea ! a Suggestion ! |
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"I don't hack, I only surf the web to search for security holes ! To prevent my clients and me from being hacked !" |
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Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 9:14 pm |
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waraxe |
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It can be something like "Waraxe was here"
Because serious security audit is something very different from those "Hacker Safe" scannings and stuff:
http://www.wbshop.com/
Look the sign upper left - "Hacker Safe"
By the way most of those "safe" websites actually contain esasy-to-spot security holes and that everyday scanner will not find anything unusual
This is more like for customer assurance - buy from us, we are secure, your CC numbers will not get stolen |
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Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 9:18 pm |
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Snoop1990 |
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I know that a side can never be 100% secure but customers believe in things like this. So if you could write such a script, that does your general tests I would be very pleased to place it on my side. |
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_________________ http://snoop1990.co.cc
"I don't hack, I only surf the web to search for security holes ! To prevent my clients and me from being hacked !" |
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Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 9:32 pm |
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waraxe |
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Good security means dedicated server, this is first what's important. Then you need professional admin, who can manage, update, secure and configure server or servers 24/7, analyze logs, etc. Without such measures there will be not even 90% security ... |
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Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 9:47 pm |
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Snoop1990 |
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for sure the certificate is nearly unnecessary but, look what I want to say there are a lot of people on the web who have no idea about security they may use a firewall but they haven't configured it, it is just like it came. Those people trust in such things.
For sure I can also place a link on my page to support you, but it would be much "cooler" to have a certificate that says "hack proved". And if I place such a thing on my side maybe some of my friends also want to place it on their side and you know it goes on and on and on.
The more people use your side the more popular you get and maybe you earn some money with some advertisement.
What I just want to say, it is worst trying it for somebody who knows that much about security like you do. That's what everybody does! It is a matter of fact that there is never total security or even high level security on a shared host. But it doesn't matter, it is just important to prove the security you have and to show that you have proved it.
You can also add a disclaimer explaining what tests your script does and that having your certificate only means the side is protected dude to php scripting or what so ever ...
At the moment it's Lenny and me who like to place such a certificate on their page but I guess others will follow. Just try ! |
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"I don't hack, I only surf the web to search for security holes ! To prevent my clients and me from being hacked !" |
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Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 4:41 am |
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pexli |
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waraxe wrote: | Good security means dedicated server, this is first what's important. Then you need professional admin, who can manage, update, secure and configure server or servers 24/7, analyze logs, etc. Without such measures there will be not even 90% security ... |
A'm not agree for dedic server's.Sometime's (about 90%) hosting keep's in database critical info for dedicated server's(root,ftp,mysql ....etc),but if you have more money for hosting,buy server and store there.colocation.Then you just need good admin do everything you write.
P.S.This with "Waraxe was here" is very stupid.Only big LaMeRs do that. |
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Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 10:00 am |
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waraxe |
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"Waraxe was here" is just ironical joke |
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Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 11:08 am |
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pexli |
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waraxe wrote: | "Waraxe was here" is just ironical joke |
Я понял дружище. |
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Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 11:39 am |
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Snoop1990 |
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Can you please speak english so we all understand it ? please ! |
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_________________ http://snoop1990.co.cc
"I don't hack, I only surf the web to search for security holes ! To prevent my clients and me from being hacked !" |
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