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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 1:09 pm |
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440 |
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hey guys,
is there any way to fake some clicks ? (for a picture voting or banners)
the only security option is an IP block. u can only click once with ur IP.
ive already tested some ideas i had but they work horrible slow.
(makro recorder)
any help would be greatly appreciated ! |
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 1:41 pm |
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waraxe |
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Location: Estonia, Tartu |
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First - if you want clicks to be coming from different IP addresses, then proxy, socks or someting similar is needed.
Second - depending on clicking task specifics you may need some automated mouse clicking program (like you mentioned) or it's possible to write special script (in perl, php, python, etc) or program for this task. Or even html file with special code written in javascript. It all depends on target ... |
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 2:19 pm |
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440 |
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hey waraxe
actually the IP is my only problem.
i did what u said and used html+js as well as that mentioned makro tool. both methods worked fine though ! but way too slow.
the reconnect to the net (dynamic ip) is driving me crazy. it just takes too much time. and i see others placing 100 clicks in 1 minute. i can only do 4-10! (depending on the wish of having it stabile or as fast as possible ^^)
i wish i knew what the others are using ^^
any ideas of how to change the ip really fast ? any tools i should look for ? (never really used or worked with proxies)
and what do u think could be the maximum amount of clicks per minute with some sort of perl script or whatever ?
unfortunately i only know java, php and some meta languages.
all these script languages are new to me.
as i said: any help is greatly appreciated. i need to kick some butts..
(they not only use their tools to push their own accounts. they also use their tools to turn my one down) |
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 3:42 pm |
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waraxe |
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So you are just reconnecting your home internet connection for new IP-s? Yes, this is slow. And I think that others are using proxies.
If you can program in php, then write clicking script, using curl. And then try to collect as big proxy list as possible and update the list as frequently as needed. If you are using casual php programming methods, then still speed can be slow. You can try php curl multi-query method. Or even better - use multithreaded program as clicker. I remember old times with online game "Outwar", where I was able to get hundreds of clicks within ten minutes, using multithreaded program (written by myself) and huge proxy list |
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 4:46 pm |
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440 |
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ok i got the idea behind it.
too bad i can only code my homepages using php and dont have any further knowledge. but ill try to figure out what cURL is about.
but if u still have old scripts, would u mind sending me an example that might still work ? i could try to change it to match my needs....
or do u know anyone who has similar scripts that just need to be adjusted ? |
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 5:45 pm |
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waraxe |
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Search google for clicker programs:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=proxy+clicker
Or if you want yourself write something that works, then start with analyze - make real click and sniff traffic. Look for http requests and responses, cookies, GET and/or POST parameters, etc. And next try to make same action without webbrowser, using only php. Curl is optional, because you can use other php network functions, it's just my favorite |
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 6:00 am |
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sk8er |
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How is it going, would you be very good to spend your program?
multithreaded ???
Thank you very much |
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:06 pm |
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440 |
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ok i got a little further with my work on a tool. found a way to click by using a simple link. no post data, no get data, no cookies or sessions needed. (but a referrer and a changing IP)
now im just not sure if i try to do it in php (found some good code i think) or in java (easier to run and i know how to use threads)
but one thing still bothers me: IP
if i really find a bunch of good proxies (right now thats a big problem for me, even with checking ur guys hints in the proxy database) then i might have 1000 running proxies. that means 1000 clicks a day. but i think in hard times i need more.
i know for sure that some other guy uses another way to do this but he wont tell me how.
do u guys have any ideas what hes doing ? can he send a fake ip to the server ? (the response from the server isnt that important, is it ?)
so: is it possible to spoof the ip somehow ? what tool can i use to test that ?
i asked google but found way too much information about it and no tool that sounded good to me. any advice ?
jesus i really need to catch up with that guy. |
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srry but u cant! |
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 4:02 am |
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GoLsT |
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u cannot do it!
if the facked change ip&delete a cookies u cant to check if that same ppl
but u can to do it :
if some site get too mach click's u can to cansel umm do if someone get 3-5 click's in sec ban him |
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