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SEC Consult SA-20241107-0 :: Multiple Vulnerabilities in HASOMED Elefant and Elefant Software Updater Unsafe eval() in TestRail CLI IT Security and Insecurity Portal www.waraxe.us Forum Index -> General discussion -> Some General Questions About Rooting a Box View previous topic :: View next topic Some General Questions About Rooting a Box Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 1:26 pm Cablekid Advanced user Joined: Jul 14, 2007 Posts: 85 Okay.. I read up and i know how to root a box using netcat. But here is my question 1. If i root the a box will the owners know it was rooted? 2. Im not trying to deface all the sites i just want to get one certain site. 3. Do i have to use commands after i root the box? Or will the shell i have show me as the root then? Thanks! Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 1:48 pm pexli Valuable expert Joined: May 24, 2007 Posts: 665 Location: Bulgaria 1.Yes if you don't clean after your enter in box. 2.Great. tar czf /were/you/want/the/archive.tar.gz /which/folder/you/plain/to/tar 3.After you root the box you have window like command prompt in windows and you use same commands like in your shell. Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:03 pm Cablekid Advanced user Joined: Jul 14, 2007 Posts: 85 pexli wrote: 1.Yes if you don't clean after your enter in box. 2.Great. tar czf /were/you/want/the/archive.tar.gz /which/folder/you/plain/to/tar 3.After you root the box you have window like command prompt in windows and you use same commands like in your shell. Thanks! Okay here some quick more. I plain on using a log cleaner after i enter the box. But after i use that will i be clean? No traces of my ip or anything like that? How much trouble could someone get into for it? Can i install a SSH back door and connect to it with a 3rd party ssh program so i can see the files/folders? Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 4:41 pm pexli Valuable expert Joined: May 24, 2007 Posts: 665 Location: Bulgaria For cleaning read this: http://wipe.sourceforge.net/ For connecting via SSH http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html Of course use socks/proxy. Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:07 pm lenny Valuable expert Joined: May 15, 2008 Posts: 275 Remember - a log cleaner only gets rid of tracks that you have already made. Your IP address will probably be somwhere in a log file, you cant keep totally clean. If you get caught, its a criminal offence and you are most likely majorly screwed. I know if sombody rooted my server I would certaimly start some kind of legal proceding (ie, press for criminal charges and start my own civil action against the attacker!). Careful. Its not nice being caught. If you really must do it, make sure you use a chain of proxies or use a proxy network such as Tor.... although im sure thats a violation of the Terms of Use for the Tor network. Questions? Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:17 pm Cablekid Advanced user Joined: Jul 14, 2007 Posts: 85 Dam LOL.. You got me all scared right now. Someone root this box for me and upload a shell the website i need lol. I just wanna grab their files and dumb their mysql not even a deface. Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:25 pm lenny Valuable expert Joined: May 15, 2008 Posts: 275 To be honest, if you are careful with the exploits you use it can be pretty undetectable. I mean, if the system administrator has no reason to be suspicious of hackers... he/she is likely to go about their routine without noticing anything. If you get in, get what you need and get out without looking around then you should be fine. Oh, and obviously if you upload a shell... then delete it before you leave. Also, if you want to remove traces from log files.... DONT delete the entire log. That just looks supicious, and the admin is bound to start investigating. Keep quiet, be efficient and make as little changes to the system as possible and you should be fine. One last thing... I really do know how tempting it is to leave a cryptic message hidden in some obscure place on the server (like "I was here 09") - its stupid, and only get you caught =p Hack safely! =] Insert standard disclaimer here. For my sake, dont go hacking things then blaming me! Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:32 pm Cablekid Advanced user Joined: Jul 14, 2007 Posts: 85 Haha Thanks Lenny... But still got my worried i know my skill level is still down their. This would be my first rooting of box and i feel uncomfortable with it. Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:53 pm lenny Valuable expert Joined: May 15, 2008 Posts: 275 Skill comes with experience, you could always try setting up like a test PC that you can hack (legally) to try an improve. Rooting a box can be quite hard, don't expect to be able to do it straight away! If in doubt, i find it 100x easier when hacking to socially engineer the targets rather than try and hack the technology. I must have tried at least 20 or so different targets when I first started before i actually managed to gain access to a box! Whatever you decided to do, liklihood is you wont be able to root the box - but that dosent mean its not worth trying And failure isnt bad, because you probably learnt somthing. Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:33 am pexli Valuable expert Joined: May 24, 2007 Posts: 665 Location: Bulgaria Quote: This would be my first rooting of box and i feel uncomfortable with it. Some people call this 'Adrenalin" and is good.)))) Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:10 pm lenny Valuable expert Joined: May 15, 2008 Posts: 275 By its very nature, hacking is illegal..... mostly. Sucks, but true. Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:24 pm x3roconf_ Advanced user Joined: May 01, 2008 Posts: 101 Cablekid wrote: Haha Thanks Lenny... But still got my worried i know my skill level is still down their. This would be my first rooting of box and i feel uncomfortable with it. So have you rooted it? Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:27 pm Cablekid Advanced user Joined: Jul 14, 2007 Posts: 85 Lol No not yet haven't tried. i was going to wait till i could steal my neighbors wifi. Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 12:02 pm adriyanna62 Beginner Joined: Jan 21, 2010 Posts: 1 To be honest, if you are careful with the exploits you use it can be pretty undetectable. 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